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Thursday, June 21, 2012

When did truth become unproductive?
By Mara Zebest | June 21, 2012

Recently, Congressman Tom McClintock spoke at a local Tea Party meeting. McClintock praised the impact and influence the Tea Party has had on elections and politicians. The Congressman went on to offer encouragement to continue confronting and engaging representatives. And if the representative is resistant, McClintock offered the following advice [paraphrasing]:

Don’t just make calls to the congressional offices, but challenge representatives in person whenever the opportunity presents itself by attending town halls and meetings. When a representative is being interviewed on the radio, call the radio station to ask challenging questions. Voice your concerns by writing Op Ed articles or take the time to frame your concerns in an effective manner through posted comments. Don’t be discouraged if after you take the time to write a comment, it is instantly met with an angry response or name calling. I’m told this is sometimes referred to as flaming. When this happens, you may wonder why it was worth making the effort to type out a well-framed idea in a comment. It was worth the effort because others will read that comment and you may have helped to articulate the idea in a manner that others find reassuring. Remember, if the only response an opponent has to offer is anger and name calling; then you’ve already won the argument.

When it came time for Q & A, I decided to take McClintock’s advice by confronting him face-to-face with a couple of concerns.

The first concern mirrored Mark Levin’s idea to replace Speaker of the House (Boehner) with Scott Walker since there’s no rule that states the Speaker of the House has to actually be a member of the House. Rep. McClintock’s appeared irritated by the request. He replied in a crisp and abrupt tone, “I think Scott Walker is plenty busy.” Determined not to be discouraged, I expanded, “We won’t know unless the idea is formally presented. I think Walker would be the perfect choice since he clearly has a spine of steel, he lives outside of the D.C. bubble influence, and he’d be a great conservative candidate to hold Romney’s feet to the fire, which we’re going to desperately need. Boehner has a horrible habit of drawing the line in the sand and then, throwing a bucket of water on his own line.” McClintock was not happy with a possible Boehner revolt brewing. The next question absolutely ruffled his feathers more.

In moving to the next concern, I offered a brief bio and explained that I had participated in Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation. My report to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office dealt with the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate document. This prompted a splatter of applause. I continued, “The PDF file Obama released is absolutely fraudulent and can be proven down to the metadata and object code buried within the file. However, if Congress members are uncomfortable in discussing the birth certificate, there’s additional proof that other documentation is equally fraudulent. Obama’s Selective Service card is obviously forged. By law, if the Selective Service card is fraudulent, Obama is not allowed to hold any executive public office position. Therefore, when will there be a Congressional hearing to evaluate the evidence on this issue?”

The response was essentially identical to one elicited from Rep. Dan Lungren. The representatives must get the same talking point memo. The strategy seems to be to ignore the question focusing on the Selective Service card. Instead, the Congressman made a beeline for the O’Reilly narrative that “citizen” is sufficient to trump the Article II “natural born citizen” requirement. Along with the idea that proof of Obama’s eligibility rest in the two birth announcements from Hawaii. My request to respond was shouted down by Rep. McClintock. In a tone that rose to a crescendo of anger, he shouted, “No, you need to sit down and be quiet. This is not productive when there are more important issues to focus on.”

This parroting of a Liberal media line never fails to force an equally kneejerk response to snap back, “I’m perfectly capable of multitasking and going after all of Obama’s misdeeds. No issue should be off the table.” McClintock did not hear these words and became more agitated as he drowned out the dissent by repeating his stance that “It is not productive. Stop! I will not listen to another word you have to say.”

The response and vitriol of the Congressman is not unusual or unexpected, but I find it troubling when other conservatives buy into silence for fear of being labeled “unproductive.” Are people so easily persuaded to stand down and adopt apathy as the norm? A few people approached me to suggest that we wait for the courts to decide the issue. I explained, “If you’ve ever read Frederic Bastiat’s The Law, you will realize that our Founder’s did not trust the judicial systems any more than the power grabbers in government. This is why they are an equal branch of government with limited powers. Courts, like governments, are motivated by a sense of elitist power and thus likely to be equal opportunists in plundering. The courts are merely using a strategy to be self-serving and run out the clock at this point. Instead of waiting for the courts, I prefer to have faith in the people, in individuals, as the Founders did. I’d be willing to bet that if the people melted the phone lines of our congressional offices with a united concern on the eligibility issue, it would have a profound impact on advancing the discussion.”

Our representatives certainly have plenty of time to pontificate on lesser topics such as winning over moderates and Independents, as if that’s “productive.” The real reason the eligibility issue is not productive is because Republicans and Democrats alike want to be able to promote candidates outside the constraints of Natural Born Citizen (which requires a candidate be born on U.S. soil to two citizen parents). Consider as proof the hard push to advance two ineligible options as VP, Rubio and Jindal.

Upholding the Constitution is not only productive, it’s paramount. We don’t get to cherry pick which laws from the Constitution are productive. The Constitution is the foundational law of the land and the original intent of this document must be supported and upheld on every level. This is the crux of the problem. We have a man in the office that has no alliance with America. Maybe this issue is the mother of all issues since it holds the key to undo all the damage, to void every law signed, and every appointee position by an ineligible Administration.

Rush Limbaugh once discussed the Big Lie from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter 10. Rush explained:

“…Hitler and the Big Lie. In his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf, the expression was coined by Hitler ”to describe a lie so ‘colossal’ that no one would believe that someone ‘could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.’” The Big Lie had to be so big that nobody would believe that anybody would have the audacity to lie that way. If you're going to lie, go big, put your lie on an Atlas rocket and launch and fire that sucker...”

“Here's what he [Hitler] wrote: “All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself -- that in the Big Lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds --” which is exactly how liberals look at average Americans, “-- they more readily fall victims to the Big Lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation," other than, it is a lie... people will think he couldn't possibly have the audacity to lie that big, it's gotta be something wrong with us...”” [as suggested by Congressman McClintock]

“-- people will believe a Big Lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.”

“… The Big Lie. Barack Hussein Obama.”

Expanding on that last thought, the Big Lie is Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of presidency. This is the lie that carries a “certain force of credibility” that Hitler describes and offers Obama the needed means to shred all other aspects of the constitution under the “illusion” of legality. This is the crux, the source, the heart of the Big Lie. This is the reason why Obama preserves a media blackout death grip, why our representatives are instructed to silence debate; both use the same excuse of being an unproductive distraction from more important issues. This also explains Ben Shapiro cowardice and Breitbart’s apologies for presenting facts on Obama’s eligibility. Diana West offers fantastic insights in a piece titled Great Get But Breitbart Doth Protest Too Much:

“Don't get me wrong -- kudos to Breitbart for publishing its report on a 1991 promotional booklet from a literary agency that describes client Barack Obama as “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii,” emphasis on "born in Kenya."

But what a strange apologetic the Breitbart team has produced in presenting this hot story.

The story, now the lead report at Drudge, opens with an explanatory note, kind of a[n] how-to-read-this-story guide which is almost as notable as the story itself...

Why is this necessary? What is "Birtherism" anyway? It seems clear that Breitbart News believes it is about to commit heresy by reporting a new set of facts that contradicts the agreed-upon narrative. They are about to say something they believe they shouldn't. They are about to report a fact about a document that has emerged which directly contradicts the president's, the media's, the elite's, narrative, and they are offering a pre-emptive mea culpa for their sin against the mainstream. This is indicative of the struggle within -- the Breitbart people want to be journalists, but they have so dutifully observed the restrictions of that Narrative of Authority and for so long that it hurts to color outside the lines.”

In part II, Diana West makes the additional takeaway point:

“Which is why Breitbart editors are still attaching disclaimers to their own news reports, rather than simply presenting the story only and simply so far as it is supported by the facts.”

Conservative media and our elected officials should stop advancing the “birther” label as something to fear and take note of Diana West’s accurate suggestion in an interview with Peter Boyles (who is also no stranger to apologists):

“Whenever I write about the eligibility issue, which really is a much better way of describing this problem then the slur of “Birther,” which doesn’t really mean anything except that somebody wants to end the conversation…”

Basically Rep. McClintock wants to end the conversation without a debate by resorting to a STFU defense, even though he didn’t actually say it in those terms. In referencing McClintock’s own words from his speech, “…if the only response an opponent has to offer is anger and name calling; then you’ve won the argument;” so was McClintock’s anger an indicator that I won the argument?

I would much prefer our representatives were open to an honest debate. Since when did truth become unproductive? Either way, I decided to take McClintock’s advice and write this Op Ed to expose The Big Lie: Obama is a fraud and I’m tired of pretending he’s not. 

Mara Zebest is a graphic artist and co-author for a number of Adobe product books including the Inside Photoshop series which typically exceeded 1000 pages, and published in at least ten different languages around the world. Ms. Zebest is also tech editor for numerous books for both Adobe and Microsoft products and has worked closely with the Cold Case Posse (CCP) for Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) in providing evidence on Obama’s forged birth certificate. 




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  1. Bettina Viviano TELLS ALL!! She could kick herself for not doing more 4 years ago...

    Peter Boyles Show:

    1. How well do we know Rubio? Type in - Rubio/oneworldguvernment... Be sides holding Americans hostage he wants to rule the world, with tax payer $ ofcorse, he also used tax payer $ to pay off his house . I will not vote if he is the VP and I'm sure he will be b/c 3 nights ago a guy from team Romney called me to make sure I was gonna vote. I said if he pics Rubio I won't vote. I said he is not eligible. He tried to argue that Rubio was, I said so your saying Herb Titus is wrong? He hung up. We are screwed. If anybody knows how to organize the uprising I'm ready. We save America now or it's over!

  2. Obama lied about osama. That is why there was no body. DNA WAS A LIE. That requires several specialized machines & days to weeks.
    Obama is as dangerous as Hitler. He has never been caught & will not be stopped until he is.
    The only way I can see this come to an end is for a tactical General in the Armed Forces to arrest him & seize power, not unlike Egypt.

    Then dissolve congress & hold new elections.

    We will never get our country--FREEDOM back otherwise.
    I will wage ObamaCare will be enforced. Obama threatened them; I am certain.

    He will never leave office voluntarily. The Saudi $$$ keeps him sustained.

    For those who don't believe THE BIG LIE we are filled with anxiety
    And don't think most of CONGRESS IS FILLED WITH ANXIETY.
    They know they have an impending catastrophe called voter Fraud in a few months.

    Only after November will they act.

  3. Dept of Homeland Security Insider to Doug Hagemann:

    source concludes, “As we’ve discussed, I heard something that troubled me deeply, and still does. As Obama’s approval rating dips, desperation becomes more of an issue. There is much discussion about the racial divide in this country, and as we talked about, there is an anticipation over the Trayvon Martin case. Depending on how things go, they are determined to inflate this into a much larger issue, and plan to fan the flames of racial division to cause a much broader divide resulting in a chaos on the streets. But a back-up plan might be in the works. Remember, this is just rumor, just talk, but it makes sense. Something that would cause deep sympathy for Obama and even the First Family—a false flag operation where Obama or his family would not be in any actual danger, but it would appear that way. Some sort of a threat or incident against them carried out by a person or group fitting the fictitious threat categories identified earlier. Perhaps by a pro-Second Amendment, constitutionalist and racist as well—making the most out of the fantasy threats to our country. Something that will fool a whole lot of people and justify police-state like practices. Something that will change the hearts and minds of as many people as possible, perhaps convincing them that there is a danger and Obama is right. Just the thought of such a thing is chilling. …The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.”

  4. Excellent article, I wish there was video of this. Just mark McClintock as another traitor to this nation and our Constitution. It's looking more and more like our nation cannot and will not be won back from this entity in DC that over threw our Constitutional Republic. There should be millions of armed Americans camping out in front of the Capitol Bldg and WH until every single one of these domestic enemies leaves our buildings. The powers that be have shut down every single peaceful act of redress that we have. We do not have that much time people. I fear the next 9/11 type big time false flag event is going to be the point of no return.

  5. I too am sick of the cherry picking of constitutional imperatives.

    So Obamacare is unconstitutional? How not surprising,considering Obama is unconstitutional!

    Why are these wimpy worms so slayed to "color within the lines" about this subject? Where's our bravehearts? Oh I know, it's US, citizen journalists and bloggers, the Vintage Media is IRRELEVANT and evil. Dusty and evil.

  6. We don't believe the big lies. They're just big lies from big mouths and tiny brains.

    I blame the enemedia for this mess.

    Lame Cherry predicted an Obama scuff months ago. He's tested scenarios such as sending his bus out into the toolies (of course he wasn't on it), sending his daughter to Cabo...they're testing the sympathy waters for this.

    Obama gives permission for race violence and all hell will break loose.

  7. "When does justice trump politics?"

    All congressmen are cowards to the onslaught of the Obama media and the left. I pounded my congressman's office and sent request after request for a face to face meeting until I got it. I presented my congressman with a binder full of documents explaining the forged birth certificate, forged draft registration card, and fraudulent social security #.

    As is the rote republican response he said "if we spend time on this and if any part of evidence against BO turns out to be false they would really be ripped so their tactic is to beat BO on the failed presidency.

    I asked what the congressman's action would be if BO is re-elected? He said there isn't any possibility that would happen based upon the "alleged" presidents performance.

    What is suffering here is truth and justice. Obama is lying to us all and congress and the senate are supporting the "big lie".

    I refuse to stop. I will continue to hound my congressman, senator, Secretary of State and Attorney General on this issue.

    I suggest you do the same-copy their office number into your cell and call every other day asking when they are planning on opening an investigation on BO and his forged BC and forged selective service card and fraudulent SS#. Ask why BO failed an E'Verify Check.

    "Let's start a SURGE now" for the truth.

  8. How much clearer can it be that the repubs are being blackmailed...over something.
    Probably something to do with the Bush regime.

  9. It appears the Ds and Rs ONLY care for their own job and political parties. If the Rs join together and admit obummer is illegal, then the Ds will probably tell the truth about 911! Everyone denies everything to maintain their status quo and enjoys the perks in their vatican slush funds. However, it is surprising that there is not 1 patriot who will speak the truth anonymously!! GREED?????????

  10. Quote:

    "How much clearer can it be that the repubs are being blackmailed...over something.
    Probably something to do with the Bush regime."

    The "something" they are being blackmailed over is the evidence which Obama and Holder...and others have that proves Republican involvement in getting a known ineligible candidate on the ballot and elected in 2008. Especially Republican leadership. They have joined with Democrat leadership and told the rest of Congress what to say and what to think on the issue of Obama's criminality.

    Why?....the fear of prison orange if the entire truth is ever openly revealed.

  11. To anon at 3.42:

    BHO´s approval rating does not "dip". He has - look at the latest Bloomberg poll - a double digit lead over Rmoney. So no need to be "desperate" - for him.

  12. When are people going to realize that the Republicans are complicit in the Obama cover-up? McClintock should be challenged in the November election. He is violating his oath to support and defend the Constitution.

  13. WOW...I live in California and had no idea Tom McClintock would completely cave in this manner...thought he would be one of the ones to stand strong...the depth of the corruption is breathtaking....

  14. Removing Obama in an election, as Congress insist we must do, legitimizes hie illegal presidency and removes Congress from the precarious position they are in now, having assisted in the usurpation and cover-up. It also means they do not have to deal with, and admit to, the mess they helped create.

  15. Excellent expose, Mara!!! She really drilled down to the core of the problem. At some point in our lives, we all have been taken in by them. Here are a couple of examples...

    I recall an excerpt from "The Creature from Jekyll Island", in which Griffin makes the following observation (keep in mind that this was published in 1998). The author basically concluded that there will arise a fabricated global issue so big and terrifying that all nations' citizens will enthusiastically turn to the government and plead for salvation at any cost. He concludes, that this scenario will likely come from the "environmental movement." Purpose? One World Government.

    In another part of the book, Griffin clearly documents how Churchill suckered the US into the war by setting up the conditions for the sinking of the Lusitania with Americans on board.

    For most, that these examples would have been "arranged," would be impossible to imagine. Anyone who ever bought into them was punked!

    I do believe that the tide is changing and collectively people are beginning to wake up and challenge the norm. When certain events begin to affect our personal lives, our minds become ripe for at least a sliver of the truth.

    Big Lies have been used effectively by the puppet masters for generations. They care not who wins, as long as THEIR NEEDS are met.

  16. i would like to see the selective service registration be the focus, because he did not register as required, obvious forgery and his anti selective service activism. throw him out on a technicality reverse his executive orders and toss the rubber stamp kagan and the unwise latina out os scotus. In terms of history call him the first democrat/socialist party black poser president. when we elect allen west I would proudly call him my first black president.

  17. Wow. I don't know wtf anyone, and/or, anybody is talking about. It is way beyond obvious the country has been taken over. Also evident is us being trapped on square one from the beginning. They've got us contained and surrounded by four walls, supported by an illegal and co. A break-out is needed. Only by all of us pushing on one wall, would that occur. That one wall is Washington. This crises demands immediate action. Converging en masse on the capitol is the only way. Any further ballot, court, and election challenges are, and will remain, futile.

  18. Mara is ON TARGET!! Obama IS a Fraud,usurper and Traitor.

    Google "There is NO 'Ptrdident' Obama" by me.

  19. Sheep are waking up to the injustices at the top trickeling down to American citizens.I hope it is not too late!When we the people let TSA grope us, allow government to sign bills to detain us in re-education camps and spy on all we do,we have much to fight for when the votes are cast. Wake someone up everyday with your wisdom so we can get the Republic back.

  20. California Birther/Dualer/DoubterJune 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Mara Zebest absolutely obliterated McClintock, exposing him as the yellow-bellied coward he is. When all is said and done, we'll show them assholes that we patriotic citizens don't take kindly to having the Constitution fucked around with in the name of political correctness.

  21. California Birther/Dualer/DoubterJune 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Funny that I would receive a bullshit reply from my congressman just as soon as I submitted the previous comment. It's the same shit that I received when I inquired him about the matter three or so years ago. Looks like he still hasn't learned his fucking lesson:

    According to Article II of the Constitution of the United States, in order to serve as President, an individual must be at least 35 years old, must be a natural born citizen, and must have lived in the United States for the last 14 years. Concerned citizens have questioned whether President Obama meets these requirements, and some have taken legal action questioning President Obama's citizenship. These legal challenges to the President's citizenship have been dismissed in several states, and the Supreme Court has chosen not to hear appeals of these dismissals. In addition, in the face of these serious questions related to his eligibility, Hawaii's Health Director and Head of Vital Statistics certified the authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate.

  22. Great article--- thank you mara for being another voice for the truth. I just don't know how these obots that support these lies sleep at night. What ever happend to truth, justice and the american way? Where is superman when we need him?
    Oh yeah, he's here in the form of sheriff joe and his posse. Yahooooooo!

  23. In this world, You are basically a liar or honest. Everybody has lied one time or another , I know I have. Buuuuut those who are big liars and lie all the time definitly have mental problems. They are not normal people. So, that means we have an insane person as our president. That's the way I see it. Keep it coming patriots---- obama and his robots are going to lose soon. Truth trumps lies.

  24. The Repubs if they are being blackmailed it is because of the deal that was made between McCain/RNC and Leahy/Obama/DNC in the 2008 primary cycle to let McCain get the pass with SR511. Read this article I wrote about the Faustian Pact that McCain/RNC made with Leahy/Obama/DNC in the spring of 2008 to get the DNA operatives and MSM media off of McCain's back on his NBC citizenship issues.

    I Believe The Fix Was In for the 2008 Election and The Cover Up is Still Going Strong! The Perfect Storm for a Constitutional Crisis!

    CDR Kerchner (Ret)

  25. EXCELLENT article from top to bottom.
    Thank you, Mara, for being a woman of indomitable spirit. You're "Ze Best"!

  26. Investors business daily has published Obama's "superficial" lies accorder to David Maraniss' new book.

    These lies are nothing compared to the TRUE PATHOLOGICAL ones never printed in publications.

    Larry Pratt on Peter Boyles: Obama and his evil enablers have succeeded at a coup d'etat.

  27. @suntango

    NOthing will ever come from the BC, SSR, SSN. There will never be a indictment, trial, impeachment over any of those issues. And they will have little or no affect on the election.

  28. I phoned Sen. Marco Rubio's office today and left a message for his communications' chief.

    He is too much in the news. and his book promotion is step I in national campaigning.

    "Senator Rubio is my senator and I love him as a Senator, BUT NOT AS A VICE PRESIDENT because he is NOT ELIGIBLE: He must have 2 American citizen parents who became citizens BEFORE HE WAS BORN."

    She was very prepared: "Your are wrong. I have a constitution in front of me. Would you like me to read it to you?"

    I said, "The presidential office is quite unique; Sen. Rubio is qualified to be a Senator, not President."

    She said that I was wrong again. I asked her if she was a lawyer. She said no. I recommended she not speak for the office and get an interpretation from a Constitutional attorney.

    "You are much to young. You never were taught a civics class. That is not taught any more. Marco is a lawyer. He KNOWS THE LAW. If he continues to pursue this, there will be an uprising whether we love him or not. Either follow the Constitution or amend it. Marco IS NOT QUALIFIED AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL IT IS AMENDED. Obama is going down because of that."

    "I know." she said. (She may just believe he is going down regardless)

    I continued, "If the Republicans are ignoring Obama's ineligibility (for office) because they are going to pull the same thing (with Rubio), there will be an uprising."

    "We will throw the entire Congress out and start over. Either amend the constitution or do not run for VP or President. Be sure he gets this message which he already knows is TRUE." I hung up.


  29. Obama Was Born in Huwaii
    (notice it is Hu and not Ha )

    It is that way on the BC. Click on the link for explanation.

    Wonder if Sheriff Joe's cold case posse noticed this?

  30. Thank you Mara Zebest for your efforts and thank you ORYR for continuing to bring these subjects to the people. Tom McClintock is usually a calm and articulate advocate of liberty and principle. That he can be flustered and reduced to an inarticulate "sit down and shut up!" shows that he's not infallible. But his suggestion that there's something more important than taking credible allegations of a sitting President's multiple felonies seriously is baffling, irresponsible, and anti-Constitutional.

    The positive symbolism of a President of African heritage is blinding many people in government and media to the actual individual's misdeeds. Equal treatment before the law is taking a back seat to a feel-good fiction that will continue subjecting America's powerless to more and more suffering.



  32. Post-BHO era, transparency,honesty,gratitude not arrogance,less:golf, first lady aids,WH no:union bosses,Jumu'ah,CZARs or MB

  33. @anon 2:45 am

    Now Obama lied about the killing of Osama?

    Oh, phuleeeeeze.

    There was no Moon Landing either.

  34. AP Article: “Kenyan-Born Obama All Set for US Senate”

  35. Hey, WTF, are you guys on vacation?


  37. It brings to mind Orwell's quote with apology for my addition: In the time of universal deceit (the Obama Reign)-telling the truth is a revolutionary act. Like Mara, the revolutionists are rising on the eagle wings of their words.

  38. Take a close look at a black and white image of Obama with a girl, is it me or is Obama's head huge?

    (The black and white image is from a story called "The white girlfriends Obama erased from his past: How the President airbrushed his romantic history to burnish his credentials as a black leader"


  39. Mark Steyn: Obama the first Invented-American president

  40. @Anonymous

    'DNA WAS A LIE. That requires several specialized machines & days to weeks'

    Not exactly. There are different methods that can be used that have different levels of accuracy. If they did a PCR analysis they could have the result in hours. It would be enough to give you 99.9+% confidence. If they did RFLP and worked 24/7 it may take a couple days and you would be 99.999999+% confident in your result.

    Keep in mind when a DNA sample is submitted to a lab (by a police department for example) the lab has hundreds of other analysis to do as well. That is often why it takes weeks for a result. The turnaround time at the lab is the limiting factor and they probably aren't 24/7.

    If you are the US Government trying to confirm bin Laden's DNA you aren't going to have to wait weeks for a lab to give you a result. You have the lab. You make it a top priority and staff your facility around the clock until you have a result.

  41. A rearrangement of an Orwell quote: "In a time of universal deceit (Obama reign)...telling the truth is a revolutionary act." Mara with her golden eagle words is a revolutionist.

  42. I think the "moon landing" comment from the Obots is a new talking point. I have seen it several times recently and the Staff person at my Representatives office also used it.

    It a stupid remark on their part, but they will repeat anything they are told to repeat, no matter how dumb it is.

    A new bit of Alinsky for the lemming left.

  43. I think the “moon landing” comment we are seeing is a new talking point for the Obots. I have seen it several times lately, and the staff person at my Representatives office recently used it.

    It’s a stupid comment, but the defenders of the indefensible will use whatever taking points they are told to use, no matter how absurd they may be.

    It’s just another bit from the well-worn Alinsky playbook by people desperately trying to hold on to the crumbling cover-up of the biggest fraud in American history.

  44. DGroundhog...Obama "announced" DNA match 5 hours after death. Even if the lab was right on a ship, the results take 8 hours...Bethesda Naval Medical says the results take 3 days.

    and you're forgetting a critical component

    they would need an Osama relative's DNA already banked and ready to match.

    Benazir Butto AND the Parisian press widely reported Osama was dead from Marfan's syndrome in 2001. He was an end-stage renal failure patient.

    This is all why there was no BODY, it was not OBL, and this is why Seal Team 6 was slaughtered to cover up.


    The faked OBL killing and murder of Seal Team 6

  46. "The Execution of Seal Team 6"

  47. Young, Bland and Spencer, all of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama, were probably the first people specifically murdered by the Obama regime.

  48. Why would they immediately shoot and dump labeled the most important person accountable for 9/11 in the ocean?

    It was all planed to ensure a loose end of the false flag truth was buried.

  49. WE haven't heard from you guys for a few days are you OK?

    Keep up the good work that you're doing.


  50. LameCherry has a good article on Obama aka Barry Chin....

    You really did not see the Freudian Slip Barack Hussien Obama Osseiran blurted out in admitting he was Barry Chin now did You?

  51. I'm confused here. I read that the SEAL Team 6 that was killed over Afghanistan were not those members who killed bin Laden. Was this info wrong?

  52. Welcome back ORYR. Was worried about you. Hoped you were just on a much deserved vacation.

  53. @TheEuropean

    Bloomberg's poll is a freakish outlier; most likely the product of flawed methodology that used a skewered sample reflecting a failure to weight properly by 2010 census data and oversampling/undersampling of certain groups.

  54. @Anonymous

    Yes. His head in this pic is huge. When are the Brits, who are so fond of splattering photos of a young Obama in their papers, going to realize they are mostly photoshopped? Good grief, can they tell not a photoshop job when they see one? Are they blind?

  55. Here's the URL for contacting the Romney campaign. We need as many people as possible to drive home the fact that Rubio is not eligible for the VP slot -- regardless of the chatter of talking heads who fancy themselves kingmakers and regardless of Hannity's intense man crush.

  56. @Anonymous

    To anon @10:20:

    Interesting observation on OBL DNA.

    I have always suspected that there was much more to the death of Benazir Butto than was reported. I would not be at all surprised if she figures somehow in the mire of yet to be answered questions about Obama's past ties to Pakistan.

    I greatly admired her, followed her career and was deeply moved by her assassination. A favorite
    Benazir quote: "Democracy is the best revenge."

  57. Corsi on Dennis Miller radio shortly.

  58. @Anonymous

    To Anon @2:39

    We may never know the answer to that one. My question has been, who the hell was responsible for putting that team in such a slow moving craft? And why?

  59. On Brien Terry and Fast & Furious. Maybe someone can help me here:

    Q: Who commits such a murder and leaves behind the weapon he used? Does a bank robber drop his handgun in the bank? Does a poacher drop his hunting rifle in the woods? And at the scene two weapons tracked to F&F were found, not just one. I could see maybe one guy panicking and dropping his weapon, but two? After Brien Terry was shot in the back two cartel members left their expensive weapons at the scene? What am I missing?

  60. C.A.Holly @ 12:25AM:

    I said the same thing on another board. Why leave the guns behind? Unless they wanted those guns to be found so that those responsible in the U.S. for financing F&F could blame gun dealers and attempt to undermine the 2nd Amendment. Which means that the Border Patrol was being set up to take the fall that night in the canyon and Brian Terry was the victim.

    NOTE: It was reported somewhere that the ATF knew cartel members would be in the canyon that same night looking for Border Patrol agents to pick off and for some reason neglected to alert the Border Patrol. Did someone goof or was it deliberate?

  61. The ATF is an illegal and unconstitutional agency, that exists to infringe on the Second Amendment.

    We need governors with the testicular fortitude to arrest and summarily execute every illegal federal agent invading their sovereign states.

  62. Quote: "I'm confused here. I read that the SEAL Team 6 that was killed over Afghanistan were not those members who killed bin Laden. Was this info wrong?" Good question, I have tried to get the same information. The Obama regime I believe said they were "likely" not the same ones. I'm thinking they were quiet likely the same ones, but I can't find out for sure.

  63. To Anon @1:23:

    Good questions. As I understand it gun shop owners who were reluctant to participate were essentially told they had no choice. That it went something like: "Are you serious? You want me to do what? Hey, that's a really, bad dude. I can't sell him a hundred and fifty 47s. Besides I'll lose my license, lose my shop." Then the suits assure him he won't and that they know what they're doing, etc.

    Maybe another possibility is that the weapons were left by one or more American or Mexican infiltrators. Set up and powerless to stop the murder of Terry, but moved by the horror of the truth to want Fast & Furious busted wide open. If that's the case my guess is they are already dead.

    And maybe I'm nuts, but what if this wasn't politically motivated. Not about the 2nd Amendment, but about greed. What if the weapons were funneled to control of traffic. Maybe opium from Afghanistan, and like a bad movie those behind it aren't only cartel kingpins but power brokers perched in high places both internationally and domestically.

  64. @John Doe Sr.

    "I think the “moon landing” comment we are seeing is a new talking point for the Obots. I have seen it several times lately, and the staff person at my Representatives office recently used it."

    Same here. You're spot on.

  65. RNC said in 2008 delegates are NOT bound, and can vote for whom they wish. This was their ruling when McCain delegates wanted to vote for Romney.
    Now, here we are in 2012, awaiting the convention in Tampa. The establishment RNC says Mittens is the "clear" winner of the run for the White House. Time for the RNC to take the shit coated glasses off and take a good look around them. The majority disagrees with them, they want an alternative to Obama, they want a change in Washington other than skin color. They want a Conservative in the White House, someone who is going to go to bat for the Country, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. They want a Conservative in the White House so they have someone who is willing to do what is necessary to fix the economy, reduce the debt and deficits, to create jobs, someone isn't spending their time in office apologizing for America's values, and love of country. They want a Conservative in the White House so they can reverse the downward spiral the establishment has created since Reagan (the last Conservative President)was in office. They want a Conservative in the White House who isn't there just because they want to be President.
    They want 2012 to be the year America elects a President to the White House, because the past 4 years without one has been a dismal failure. Romney in the White House would just be bolstering the failed concept that that heart and soul mean nothing.

    A brokered convention in Tampa is the only way to restore faith in America, faith in the concept of freedom.
    There is a Conservative waiting for the chance to represent the people of America. Cain, Gingrich, Palin, West, even Ron Paul is more Conservative than Romney.
    November, NObama / NOromney 2012 a Conservative shall run for President.


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